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@Coder:	Marie-Noëlle Guillot converter MMT
*SAN:	(we're) here today just to talk about er anti_smoking campaigns and
	erm: basically on 'this side we've got a s(sx) a team of people who
	ar(are) who are 'against (.) and on this side we have a team of
	people who are 'for er so er: so I'd just like to hear your opinion
	er: (.) SEP what's your opinion with regards er: 'publicity and er:
	and and smoking do you think as (.) adverts for cigarettes should be
	allowed <or do you> [>1] think they're a bad influence.
*SEP:	<erm> [<1].
*SEP:	no as far as I know they're not allowed in (.) England on
	'television (.) but (.) I do think they have a bad influence you
	know you can't have (.) an 'advert adverts basically say th(that)
	(.) that things are ok you know in our society I don't think we
	should have any publicity because (.) I don't think that smoking is
	ok (.) you know if young people see these adverts they're just (.)
	(.) <part of> [>1] their something in their brain is going to (.)
	'accept smoking as s(something) [>2] something which is
	[^ com: suspended briefly].
*SAN:	<[^ gui: startFalse] xxx xxx [^ gui: endFalse]> [<1].
*SSG:	<hm> [<2].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTR] they're susceptible <enough anyway so> [>]
	[^ gui: INTRclose] .
*SEP:	[^ gui: TCDR] < you know acceptable> [<] .
*SAN:	<right> [<] [^ com: overlaps with SSG's 'so'] .
*SSG:	having adverts isn't going to help .
*SAN:	ok .
*STS:	erm they do have adverts on 'billboards erm say round (.) <near
	roundabouts> [>1] and but they d(do) they do erm state on there that
	it's harmful for the for the health (.) erm so (.) everyone should
	be conscient(conscientx) (.) erm conscious that (.) erm <ther (.)
	there is xxx> [>].
*SSG:	<yes it is true> [<1].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTP] <yeah but that> [<] means nothing though really does
	it [^ gui: INTPclose] .
*STS:	well .
*SSG:	surely .
*STS:	[^ gui: TCD] yes I think it does I ha(have) I thi(think) .
*SLH:	[^ gui: INTP] yeah because when they actually <buy a packet of
	cigarettes it says smoking kills> [>1] in 'big letters like almost
	<covering the label> [>] [^ gui: INTPclose].
*SSG:	<on bottles of drinks it's consume with moderation> [<1].
*STS:	<about fifty per cent> [<].
*SAN:	right does anyone know if there's been a change in the figure of
	people who smoke since the introduction of these leaflets of these
	erm the new [^ com: clicks tongue + suspended] .
*SLH:	it <certainly in England it has> [>] yeah .
*SSG:	<what the packets> [<].
@Comment:	all: hm
*SAN:	yeah yeah .
*SLH:	I don't know figures <xxx> [>].
*SAN:	[^ gui: INTP] <because> [<] I mean I know many smokers who say that
	well they've a (.) they've always known this and so: [>1] these new
	signs mean nothing to them [>2] I was just wondering about <that>
	[>] [^ gui: INTPclose].
*SSG:	<hm> [<1].
*SLH:	<hm> [<2].
*SSL:	<it> [<] might have an impact on the people who 'start smoking .
*SSG:	indeed I think <it's not> [>1] really to <people> [>2] who're
	already smokers I mean [>3] (.) (.) they look at it you know [>4]
	you get the foreign ones you think are funny because it says
	something else [^ com: laughter from STS] and it's you know funny to
	get the lo(lox) the most original one or whatever but I mean
	peop(people) (.) erm: (.) people who already smoke I mean it's it
	doesn't seem to make mu (.) that much difference but obviously to
	(.) <considering (.) younger people> [>].
*SAH:	<yeah> [<1].
*SSL:	<not necessarily> [<2].
*SSL:	<yeah:> [<3].
*SSL:	<[^ gui: startFalse] I reckon [^ gui: endFalse]> [<4].
*SSL:	[^ gui: INTP] <I reckon like when you're twelve years old> [<] and
	you read a message saying there's(there's) smoking can cause a slow
	and painful death (.) I reckon it might be a bit scary for if you're
	just being twelve years old so (.) it <might> [>1] just I don't know
	if it would make an effect in on 'long term but then (.) in the
	moment that you read that I guess you just feel a bit scared
	[^ gui: INTPclose].
*SSG:	<hm> [<1].
*SEP:	<[^ gui: SIM] hm> [<].
*STS:	<[^ gui: SIM] hm> [<].
*SLH:	<[^ gui: SIM] yeah> [<] the adverts on TV as well the ones
	wher(where) with the 'fat coming out of them
	[^ com: noises of agreement/recognition from several] <xxx> [>1] I
	mean that would put (.) a child off smoking <if they were to see
	that> [>].
*SAN:	<[^ gui: startFalse] yeah the cigarette that [^ gui: endFalse]>
	[<1].
*SSG:	<yeah yeah definitely> [<].
*SAN:	[^ gui: startFalse] ok (.) so er [^ gui: endFalse].
*SSG:	there's(there's) so before I was s(surpirsed) you know surprised
	that it hadn't (.) that campaign hadn't you know taken effect
	earlier I mean (.) years ago that it's only recently started to be
	more of an issue (.) especially on TV (.) .
@Comment:	SAN thinks SSG has abandoned message
*SAN:	[^ gui: startFalse] and also [^ gui: endFalse].
*SSG:	[^ gui: TCDFS] and the anti_smoking things like Nicorette and
	chewing gum and stuff <that's (.)> [>1] become like almost huge
	business now it's become a lot more (.) r prevalent.
*SAN:	<hm> [<1].
*SLH:	France is quite behind as well with (.) erm [^ com: SAN coughs]
	advertising cigarettes as well and I don't know whether you found
	when you were in France every time you had a break all the French
	students would vacate the lecture theatre to go and have a fag (.)
	like every [^ com: indrawn breath] half an hour they'd need a fag
	and before (.) l(lectures) lectures in the b(bx) about eight o'clock
	in the morning they need to smoke and [^ com: indrawn breath] our
	uni just (.) stank of smoke all the time and we always stank of
	smoke [^ com: indrawn breath] but it's just behind in France and
	they're only just starting now to take any action .
*SSG:	hm .
*SAN:	hm I found it quite strange in France actually because I was
	working in a in a lycée and it's quite strange to walk into a
	playground and and see: (.) chi(children) well not children but
	youn(young) young adults smoking and it was allowed <but erm> [>1] I
	was told.
*SSG:	<hm> [<1].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTN] < it was actually allowed> [<] on the playgrounds
	[^ gui: INTNclose] .
*SAN:	yeah it was allowed but I <I was told that there was a recent> [>].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTN] <nothing like> [<] going up to the tennis courts
	<hiding from the teachers> [>] [^ gui: INTNclose] .
*SAN:	<no they don't have to sneak off> [<] round the corner or anything
	but I was told that that was (.) a(ax) er brought in recently
	actually because of the (.) the security threats and so: they're
	trying to avoid kids being out on the street so it's(it's) it's
	better for them to be (.) in the playgrounds where they can be
	supervised .
*SSG:	though I think that's they should just surely ban it and say you
	can't smoke because you can't come into the school what what ages
	w(wx) was it was it like .
*SAN:	sixteen to eighteen they were .
*SAH:	isn't that slightly (.) 'unrealistic though because then as soon as
	they get out of school <they'll just smoke anyway> [>].
*SSG:	<I wasn't sure of the age> [<] (.) < you know xxx> [>].
@Comment:	SSG, STS and SSL speech overlaps
*STS:	<but y(you) you can smoke when you're> [<] [>1] sixteen can't <you>
	[>].
*SSL:	<[^ gui: startFalse] yeah but in France [^ gui: endFalse]> [<1].
*SAN:	<yeah> [<] .
*SSL:	[^ gui: TCDFS] you have to remember though like you've got really
	really long school days in France s(sx) whereas they're longer than
	here in England (.) I went to a French school sym(symx) school
	system myself and (.) you just spend all your life in school really
	and you don't actually go out and smoke after school if you're not
	already smoking 'in school and I know that we had this system of if
	you: wanted to smoke in school you needed a signature from your
	parents which is also (.) letting: putting a lot of people off the
	smoking because they're not going to get this from their parents (.)
	<and al(alx)> [>1] and so: if they get caught then they're just
	going to get <not having the sig> [>].
*SSG:	<[^ gui: startFalse] xxx xxx [^ gui: endFalse]> [<1].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTN] <this is the leg(legal) legal age> [<] isn't it
	you're talking about sixteen to eighteen [^ gui: INTNclose] .
*SAN:	yeah <yeah that's legal> [>].
*SSL:	<yeah> [<] yeah .
*SAN:	[^ com: faintly] yeah .
*SAH:	but I I don't really think 'advertising contributes much towards
	this sort of (.) teenage smoking a l(lx) a lot of the French as well
	smoked weed and you don't get advertisements for that erm anywhere
	do you although y(you) [>1] possibly it could be considered as quite
	a cool image [>2] [>3] but you certainly don't (.) aren't confronted
	with it on TV or (.).
*SAN:	<hm> [<1].
*SAN:	<hm> [<2].
*SSG:	<hm> [<3].
*SSG:	<[^ gui: SIM] xxx xxx> [<].
*SSL:	<[^ gui: SIM] that's because> [<] it's illegal though .
*SAH:	well y(yes) it is but what a(ax) what I'm saying is that erm: (.)
	there there's no (.) 'advertising which (.) makes that popular in
	the same way that [^ com: indrawn breath] you know which I don't
	think <smoking> [>1] the popularity of smoking really stems from (.)
	from advertising.
*SSL:	<oh right I see what you're (mean)> [<1].
*SAN:	right ok and erm what about just continuing with like public places
	erm in Ireland recently they've w(wx) I think about a year ago now
	they they they've made smoking in public places such as restaurants
	and pubs (.) 'illegal what would you think of England taking that
	stance (.) because it has been discussed in the press recently do
	you think that's a: a xxx step forward or do you think it's (.) it's
	going too far .
*STS:	well yes I do I think it's going too far I think that we shouldn't
	control people too much everyone should have a you know <choice and
	freedom> [>1] erm we shouldn't [>2] we shouldn't be forced to do
	this or that (.) there should be places set aside where people 'can
	smoke [>3] and then peo(people) if people don't want to smoke o(or)
	or don't want to ha(have) to erm(erm) erm breathe in the smoke from
	other people then (.) maybe there should be places set aside for
	them where it's non_smoking <erm> [>].
*SSG:	<[^ com: quietly to SSL] do you still smoke> [<1].
*SSL:	<[^ com: negative] hm> [<2].
*SAN:	<hm hm> [<3].
*SAN:	<right> [<] ok .
*STS:	[^ gui: TCD] you've got to balance the n(needs) needs of both (.)
	people not not just ban it completely (.) <I think> [>].
*SAN:	yeah <that's> [>] that's a xxx consideration but what would you say
	with regard to people who 'work in pubs or (.) <or> [>]
	[^ com: suspended] .
*STS:	<well> [<] it's their choice to work in pubs I mean there's lots of
	other jobs available (.) and y(you) <y(you) you> [>1] know when when
	if you go to a pub that (.) there's probably going to be s(sx) erm
	people smoking and [^ com: suspended] .
*SAN:	<ok> [<1].
*SAH:	and think of all the other smells as well that the tobacco actually
	covers up like the smell of stale beer
	[^ com: laughter over the rest of SAH's speech] or the toilets or
	whatever else I th(thx) I s(sx) .
*SSL:	[^ gui: INTR] it's not only smell that's a health thing it's
	passive smoking [^ gui: INTRclose] .
*SAH:	well yeah but there has to be a trade_off somewhere doesn't there I
	mean everything in life <it's (.)> [>1] [^ com: laughter]
	every(everything) [^ com: louder] everything in life can kill you
	it's just depends on the dosage surely.
*SSL:	<a trade_off that kills you> [<1].
*SAN:	hm ok and what about erm: (.) just going back on advertising
	actually erm: the freedom of the 'press so for example I mean do you
	think we(we) we are f(x) we are b(beginning) we are beginning to go
	too far with erm: the role (.) with interference with with laws and
	things when whereby we try and [^ com: indrawn breath] 'mould a
	society do you think it's going too far by(by) what do you think
	about the role of the press in society (.) and cigarettes .
*SEP:	with regards to cigarettes .
*SAN:	yeah with regards to cigarettes .
*SEP:	erm: I think you know with the enlargement of the: the warning (.)
	bits that're on on each box of cigarettes that's sold I think with
	'that and with regards to the adverts that're on TV at the moment
	with the 'fat coming out of the cigarettes [>1] which is really
	disgusting (.) erm lots of people I've (.) well talked to are
	disgusted by all these things and <th(thx)> [>].
*SAN:	<hm> [<1].
*SAN:	<hm> [<] .
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTR] but they carry on anyway [^ gui: INTRclose] .
*SEP:	[^ gui: TCDR] you know they carry on they don't care they're
	desensitised to (.) just the fact that smoking's an awful habit and
	you know .
*SSG:	[^ gui: INTR] yeah (.) it's acceptance <they're> [>1] doing it
	anyway but I think that sort of thing is definitely aimed at (.)
	people who're er non_smokers to det(deter) it's more of a deterrent
	rather than [^ com: suspended] [^ gui: INTRclose].
*SEP:	<yeah> [<1].
*SEP:	I think it works for them .
*SSG:	yeah .
*SAN:	yeah .
*SEP:	but not for people who're already smoking although it will start
	people thinking (.) which is (.) definitely a good aim .
*SAN:	hm: [>1] but I I do agree with a point that was mentioned before
	that erm: the the nature of our (.) of our 'thinking has changed and
	we are moving towards a healthier society and so erm the idea of
	sm(smx) you know lots of programmes as you watch the evening TV it's
	about you know a whole street (.) ung(ungx) g(gx) er stands on
	scales <trying> [>2] to lose weight together and stopping smoking
	and and so that xxx <so> [>].
*SEP:	<yeah> [<1].
*SSG:	<hm> [<2].
*SAH:	[^ gui: INT] <but isn't don't> [<] isn't the fact that we 'have
	programmes like this a sign that we're moving 'away from a healthier
	society because (.) you know we the fact that we 'need these
	programmes the fact that (.) obesity is becoming more and more of a
	problem [>1] erm: surely that that shows the opposite that we're
	becoming a more 'unhealthy society [^ gui: INTclose].
*SAN:	<hm hm> [<1].
*SAN:	yeah but I think by the fact the fact that they're shown on TV now
	it's it's addressing the problem so we're trying to move away from
	it I think [>1] but [^ com: suspended] .
*SAH:	<hm hm> [<1].
*SSG:	but surely about obesity that's it hasn't got that much to do with
	cigarettes obviously it's bad for your health but not in the way
	that (.) <xxx xxx can be> [>].
*SAH:	<but doesn't I I> [<] I think that in France certainly a lot of the
	girls smoked an: in order 'not to eat really I think [>1] <quite
	often> [>2] there was some French girls that I lived with had very
	very small meals and then would smoke about five cigarettes
	afterwards and that way they didn't feel hungry and I'm [>3] (.) not
	sure how scientific that is but certainly that seemed to be <(.)
	(.)> [>4] what I experienced.
*SEP:	<hm> [<1].
*SAN:	<that's true yeah> [<2].
*SEP:	<hm> [<3].
*SSG:	<that can't be good> [<4].
*STS:	erm anyway erm people who smoke they find it harder to do exercise
	and keep fit anyway (.) <(.) so that's> [>].
*SAN:	<right> [<] .
*SEP:	[^ gui: INTR] <so it's> [<] a vicious circle [^ gui: INTRclose] .
@Comment:	gentle laughter from SEP, SAN and STS
*STS:	yeah er well (.) erm: (.) (.) erm I I just think that
	[^ com: clears throat] well it should just be their choice really
	[^ com: slight laugh from STS] .
*SAN:	right on the film they they gave cited an extreme example of erm
	stopping the the 'sale of cigarettes what do you
	[^ com: slight laugh in voice] what are both your opinions with
	regard that (.) just [^ com: suspended] .
*SSG:	<that would be silly> [<] [>1] xx just go on <to the black market
	xxx xxx even more> [>].
*SLH:	<erm:> [<1].
*SLH:	<yeah it wouldn't be feasible> [<] like in the economy of (.) most
	most countries 'depend on it and the amount of people that are
	employed in it it just there's no way if if f(fx) smoking was
	introduced now it would be banned no doubt <and> [>1] the same with
	alcohol as well because <it's got such a long history> [>2] [>3] in
	our culture that it'd be impossible to: (.) completely ban
	cig(cigarette) cigarette manufacturing.
*SAN:	<right> [<1].
*SSG:	<it's such an established (.) thing yeah> [<2].
*SEP:	<yeah> [<3].
*SAN:	right .
*STS:	and er it's also very useful because th(the) the government take a
	lot of taxes and make a lot of money out of th(the) the sale of
	cigarettes [>1] anyway and [^ com: suspended] .
*SAN:	<right> [<1].
*SEP:	and the NHS have to spend a lot of money (.) on smoking_related
	diseases .
*STS:	<[^ gui: SIM] yeah> [<].
*SAN:	<[^ gui: SIM] that's true> [<] sixty eight thousand people a year .
*STS:	<[^ gui: startFalse] [^ gui: SIM] at least by [^ gui: endFalse]>
	[<] .
*SEP:	<[^ gui: SIM] who die> [<].
*SAN:	yeah .
*STS:	but at 'least by selling it officially erm you actually (.) will
	get the taxes whereas if it was sold (.) unofficially [>1] <(.) (.)
	(.)> [^ com: laughter and agreement] people wouldn't bother <er (.)>
	[>2] paying taxes like that (.) erm [^ com: suspended] .
*SSG:	<we'd have a financial problem> [<1].
*SEP:	<yeah> [<2].
*SSG:	I think for a from any side (.) for or against (.) eradicating
	cigarettes would be a [>1] (.) (.) 'utopian kind of idea idealist
	but [^ com: suspended] .
*SX7:	<hm> [<1].
@Comment:	SSG tails off. Small pause, sound of sniffs
*SAN:	ok erm: (.) (.) anything to add .
*SSG:	dried up .
*SAN:	erm .
*SAN:	<[^ gui: SIM] anyone else got anything else to add> [<] .
*SEP:	<[^ gui: startFalse] [^ gui: SIM] I think what Simon was
	[^ gui: endFalse]> [<] .
*SSG:	<hm> [<].
*SEP:	<I think> [<] what Simon was saying about being a(a) a utopian idea
	it w(would) it would be so difficult to eradicate cigarettes we have
	to find ways 'around smoking but we can't just stop it [>1] because
	it is(is) will carry on and it's just part of society today it's
	just what people do (.) <if they choose to> [>].
*SAH:	<[^ gui: startFalse] no but it's [^ gui: endFalse]> [<1].
*SAH:	< maybe the way> [<] to eradicate is to look at the reasons why
	it's [>1] (.) why why <we 'need cigarettes> [>].
*SEP:	<[^ gui: startFalse] I know [^ gui: endFalse]> [<1].
*SAN:	<(so) popular> [<] .
*SEP:	because of other social <problems> [>].
*SAN:	<hm right> [<] .
*SAH:	yeah .
*SAN:	hm .
*STS:	a lot of people 'feel they need to smoke and that would make that
	could (.) drive them n(nx) over the edge if they suddenly (.) had
	the freedom to smoke erm taken away from them (.) erm .
*SSL:	but I think it's not as if you 'need to smoke it's just a kind of
	(.) eating sweet thing or having (.) a <beer or something> [>1] yeah
	it's like it is an <enjoyable thing for xxx xxx> [>].
*SAN:	<chocolates> [<1].
*STS:	[^ gui: INTP] <wh(why) why not ban that> [<] as well I mean we
	might as well <ban half the things> [>1] because half the things are
	bad for you [^ gui: INTPclose].
*SAN:	<xxx> [<1].
*SAN:	right that's true but I think with smoking that's: particular in
	that it does have an effect on the people around you I mean (.) some
	people just don't <simply> [>1] don't like it <and some some some
	people> [>].
*SEP:	<yeah> [<1].
*SSG:	[^ gui: INT] <xxx the> [<] figures it's one of the biggest killers
	in the UK [^ gui: INTclose] .
*SAN:	yeah .
*SSG:	[^ gui: TCD] you can't really ignore that .
*SAN:	yeah .
*SAH:	but there's ways of ways of dealing with that without actually
	stopping the individual from smoking [>1] (.) erm: you know you can
	(.) I y(you) you could have restaurants where you are 'allowed to
	smoke in [>2] (.) others that that won't I mean surely if there is
	this great market out there of people who (.) who really want to go
	somewhere where there won't be any smoke [>3] (.) then surely the
	market would cater for that and create restaurants and bars where
	where it was no smoking you shouldn't really need the government to
	<interfere there> [>].
*SAN:	<right> [<1].
*SAN:	<hm hm> [<2].
*SAN:	<hm> [<3].
*SSL:	<I don't think that's> [<] the point though I think the point the
	restaurants why there aren't bars and restaurants etcetera like this
	is because there's simply no 'business for it (.) because you'd get
	the ma (.) the majority of people (.) would end up going to the bars
	because if you go four people one out of four people'd smoke and
	they'd all want to (.) have to go to that (.) smoking restaurant
	then (.) I think it's just there's no business for it in the long
	run .
*SAN:	<I xxx> [<] .
*SSG:	[^ gui: INT] <still that' Sx it's> [<] what you expect as well I
	mean as a n(non) (.) non_smoker I've got lots of friends who smoke
	if we go out (.) or anyone really if you go to a restaurant with
	someone you expect there to be (.) smoking non_smoking section [>1]
	(.) so [^ gui: INTclose].
*SAN:	<yeah> [<1].
*STS:	that's a step forward from (.) the past s(sx) that's what I mean
	that must have been introduced at some stage .
*SAN:	yeah that's true I think that erm like like Stine said that I don't
	think (.) I think the the demand for these things is a bit
	[^ com: STS coughs] dubious because for example of the Union bar
	here [>2] (.) I mean it's got a non_smoking section and it's (.)
	'often empty (.) and and n(now) now in fact because of th(the) it
	the lack of use of it they're actually going to make a smoking
	section and it was the same with the previous bar there was an
	<actual> [>1] 'individual bar which was non_ smoking and it was (.)
	'always empty <and there's a> [>].
*SSG:	<hm> [<1].
*SSG:	<hm> [<2].
*SSL:	[^ gui: INTR] <unless there was> [<] a football match (.) <yeah>
	[>] [^ gui: INTRclose] .
*SAN:	<well yeah> [<] (.) so that that that's quite a str(strnage) quite
	strange really well it's not strange I th(the) I can see the social
	f(fx) draw to it because I mean 'I'm a non_smoker but I oft(often)
	always went to I always go to the smoking section because that's
	where the people I know are and it always seems more fun in a in a
	lot of [^ com: laughing] ways <a: a bit more lively> [>].
*SSG:	<so it seems a lot> [<] seems a lot of the time where those
	statistics say that (.) obviously there's (.) the majority are
	non_smokers and (.) there are a lot of si(six) social situations
	non_smokers are the minority .
*SLH:	<[^ gui: SIM] hm> [<].
*SAN:	<[^ gui: SIM] hm> [<] yeah <that's true> [>].
*SAH:	<so so think> [<] about how (.) how empty the bars and pubs would
	be if we banned smoking everyone would just stay at home really you
	know you'd get a few [^ com: indrawn breath] miserable old (.)
	[^ com: laughter which continues over the rest of SAH's and S1AN's speeches]
	people who'd sit in there <'not smoking> [>].
*SAN:	<waiting for a cigarette> [<] .
*SAH:	yeah [^ com: laughter] (.) you know think of the loss of trade and
	the (.) unemployment issues in bars and pubs I think in Ireland (.)
	something like trade has gone down by about <twenty> [>1] per cent
	in (.) in pubs (.) due to this well that they attribute to (.) the
	smoking ban.
*SX7:	<hm> [<1].
*SSL:	it's sad .
*SSL:	[^ com: in an undertone] can we stop now .
*SAN:	ok I think we'll leave it there thank you very much for your time .
@Comment:	general laughter
@End